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Poster: patkelleyPA Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

I'm no big Democrat or anything like that, in fact I'm still registered as "non-affiliated." But I'm surprised at the overall negative response to the GD reunion in favor of Obama. I would have thought that, of all forums on the web, this would be the one place that would get behind a GD reunion.

Personally, I wouldn't care if they reunited in support of higher gas prices or any other unpopular cause. The music will still be good. Plus, it's in Happy Valley, one of the greatest spots on earth!

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Poster: pequastogy Date: Sep 3, 2008 5:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

I'm in favor of going forward. I like going to see Phil and Bobby's bands. Its not much different than the mass of dead shows I saw:some were unforgettable;some were awful. I miss Jerry just like the rest of you. He made me cry with his voice and guitar play. I always run with a favorite concert blasting through my ipod. It makes me cry to this day depending on what else is on my mind. Plug into Ratdog's Camden show from a few weeks ago. Many fine moments. The music can't be denied. Its a different band with a different take.

As for the politics of it all, I agree with a previous poster:I don't care why they're getting together, I just want to catch a little magic.

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

I say Good For Them, it's nice to see them take a political stand on something. I always thought they could have been more outspoken about issues.

I agree w/ Bluedevil about the music. When I saw the Dead in Joliet IL in 2004, the highlights were Hunter and Dylan, There was just such a gaping hole in the music, even 2 lead guitarists couldn't fill it.

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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Sep 3, 2008 2:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

pat i've tried and tried to get into the music the rest
of the band has been doing but the soul is missing.it's not
bad and a lot better than most crap on the radio but it falls
short.i also agree they should change it to some deadheads
for che obama,the guy is a flat out socialist and for big
government.more programs,more taxes.americans need to start
taking more responsibility for their actions and be less
depended on the government.we need to raise are children
right and stop placing blame on hollywood and music when
the children stray towards the wrong path.we are suppose to
run this country not uncle sam.we need to hold are leaders
accountable for their actions,they work for us.they are the
sheep not the citzens.somewhere along the way that got lost.
destroy the special interest groups who are destroying america.let your voices be heard and take it to the streets
if you have to.know your candidates before you vote and
don't let the media dictate your vote,which is what's happening now.ask anyone what are che obama and mcbush views
on certain issues and i bet 75% couldn't give you a answer.
that's sad.change..change...change..has he given a straight
answer on his plan for change?no because he doesn't have one
except for more taxes,bigger government.lets take are country back.we need another major party and a limit on campaign funds so everyone has a voice.fight the power.
as for the band getting back together i hope they have fun
but it will never be as close as it was.that jerry void
is to hard to overcome.kesey sumed up jerry the best and no
artist they pick can fill those shoes.

by Ken Kesey

by Ken Kesey

Hey, Jerry-- what's happening? I caught your funeral. Weird. Big Steve was good. And Grissman. Sweet sounds. But what really stood out -- stands out -- is the thundering silence, the lack, the absence of that golden Garcia lead line, of that familiar slick lick with the uptwist at the end, that merry snake twining through the woodpile, flickering in and out of the loosely stacked chords...a wriggling mystery, bright and slick as fire... suddenly gone.

And the silence left in its wake was-- is-- positively ear-splitting.

Now they want me to say something about that absence, Jer. Tell some backstage story, share some poigniant reminescence. But I have to tell you, man: I find myself considerably disinclined. I mean, why go against the grain of such an eloquent silence?

I remember standing out in the pearly early dawn after the Muir Beach Acid Test, leaning on the top rail of a driftwood fence with you and Lesh and Babbs, watching the world light up, talking about our glorious futures. The gig had been semi-successful and the air was full of exulted fantasies. Babbs whacks Phil on the back.

"Just like the big time, huh Phil."

"It is! It is the big time! Why, we could cut a chart-busting record to-fucking-morrow!"

I was even more optimistic. "Hey, we taped tonight's show. We could release a record tomorrow.

"Yeah right--" (holding up that digitally challenged hand the way you did when you wanted to call attention to the truth or the lack thereof) "--and a year from tomorrow be recording a Things Go Better With Coke commercial."

You could be a sharp-tongued popper-of-balloons shit-head when you were so inclined, you know. A real bastard. You were the sworn enemy of hot air and commercials, however righteous the cause or lucrative the product. Nobody ever heard you use that microphone as a pulpit. No anti-war rants, no hymns to peace. No odes to the trees and All things Organic. No ego-deaths or born-againnesses. No devils denounced no gurus glorified. No dogmatic howlings that I ever caught wind of. In fact, your steadfast denial of dogma was as close as you ever came to having a creed.

And to the very end, Old Timer, you were true to that creed. No commercials. No trendy spins. No bayings of belief. And if you did have any dogma you surely kept it tied up under the back porch where a smelly old hound belongs.

I guess that's what I mean about a loud silence. Like Michaelangelo said about sculpting, "The statue exists inside the block of marble. All you have to do is chip away the stone you don't need." You were always chipping away at the superficial.

It was the false notes you didn't play that kept that lead line so golden pure. It was the words you didn't sing. So this is what we are left with, Jerry: this golden silence. It rings on and on without any hint of let up...on and on. And I expect it will still be ringing years from now.

Because you're still not playing falsely. Because you're still not singing Things Go Better With Coke.

Ever your friend,

Keez



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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 3, 2008 2:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

After reading the Keesy quote, I've gone back to delete my post. I'll let Ken take the very appropriate last words (for me).

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2008-09-03 21:35:01

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 2:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

wow, hadnt seen that first kesey quote before that tiger posted.

yeah BD - kinda says a whole lot dont it?? tough to argue that one.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

"It was the false notes you didn't play that kept that lead line so golden pure."

Garcia obviously has admirable qualities, even enough to reach the gold ring.

But really it's easy to recognize there were false notes that were played -- if you ever listened to the 80s and 90s! I don't have the cure for him or me, but being self-centered lead to self-medication that only covered up problems. Hopefully Garcia beat his demons there at the end (and if he didn't I'm not sure I could).

Who knows, maybe Jerry would have looked at the $9 trillion debt of a country run by oil and military and the rapidly melting ice caps with a refreshed outlook and decided that it was time for the ass to set the mind free.

Even if it's only blocking evil (or the nothing if you will) for a time. No one really expects Obama to change much; it's a group decision after all.



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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

speaking of melting ice shelfs, did you see the news. fucking piece the size of manhattan let loose - a piece that they didnt think was going to break.

spaced, i am with you on this - i am afraid of the arctic melt - cant be sure what is causing it, but we can do our part to slow it.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

Herman Göring: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
In an interview with Gilbert in Göring's jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

are you shitting me???? never read that from Goring before.

nice post BD - very informative - historically, ideologically, and psychologically

cant say i disagree with him - he is spot on.

got to think about his words some, and digest them.

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

Don't tread on me.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

Just to remind folks what Dylan said:

"There's no way to measure his greatness or magnitude as a person or as a player. I don't think eulogizing will do him justice. He was that great - much more than a superb musician with an uncanny ear and dexterity. He is the very spirit personified of whatever is muddy river country at its core and screams up into the spheres. He really had no equal. To me he wasn't only a musician and friend, he was more like a big brother who taught and showed me more than he'll ever know. There are a lot of spaces and advances between the Carter Family, Buddy Holly and, say, Ornette Coleman, a lot of universes, but he filled them all without being a member of any school. His playing was moody, awesome, sophisticated, hypnotic and subtle. There's no way to convey the loss. It just digs down really deep."

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Poster: Edsel Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

Well, they could have just reunited to be themselves, but no, they had to inject politics into it. Screw that.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

No Jer, no thanks. If you go, have fun. For me, I have a real big problem at any shows of Phil, Bob, etc hearing the tunes he sang not sung by him and more importantly my ear is always waiting for that guitar that is not there. And I like Warren - but I'd rather hear him do a Govt Mule show and/or other covers beside the Dead's catalog. He does great verions of Radiohead's "Creep", U2's "One", and Mule used to do a blistering version of Zappa's "Zomby Woof".

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

I'd have to agree, it would be like a mothers of invention show without frank or a pipps show without gladys...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

pipps w/o gladys - that's funny...

Ashford w/o Simpson
Hall w/o Oates (why, oh why, didn't they play "She's Gone" into "He's Gone"?)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

Merrill without Lynch...

oh sorry

wrong type of group

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

Dire without Wolf (could be...Dire without Teeth [soon?])?

Mooo without Cow?

Bessie without...?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

just picked up Spooky's ashes, so yeah, i am definitely dire without fangs at the moment.

didnt think it would be this tough

god, i am a sally

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 3, 2008 4:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

Join the club.

Always room for more.

Seriously.

Hang in there dude.

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Poster: patkelleyPA Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

Wow, everyone here can get excited about any hack folk musician or no-name half-rate guitarist, but no one cares about Phil Lesh and Bob Weir and Mickey Hart and Billy Kreutzmann?? Seems very weird to me.

Of course, if you're offended by the political hype that's certainly understandable. But were you ("you" in general, not just bluedevil) pissed off by Rainforest benefit shows? That was/i a hot political issue. How about Rex benefits? How about any of the other causes the GD got behind in the past 40 years? This is a band that very very often didn't play "just for themselves."

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Sep 3, 2008 2:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you poople a bunch of Republicans or something?

I don't think the rainforest is political as much as it is socio economic. I don't think either political faction wants the rain forest gone. Funny how we get all bent out of shape over what other nations do with their own resources but won't fully, safely and cleanly maximize the use of our own though. Both parties have failed to get us off foreign oil in the last 20 years.

Move the polar bears to antartica, it's ice is growing I think... there is actually a glacier in kalifornia somewhere too I believe.

Anyone heard about the sunspot activity?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 3, 2008 2:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you poople a bunch of Republicans or something?

no, but where did all the frogs and bees go?

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you poople a bunch of Republicans or something?

Disneyland, where did the wooly mammoths go?

The killer bees?

Dinosaurs?

Dodo birds?

Dire wolves?

Jello Pudding pops?

Deloreans?

All that anti creationist darwinism and anti marxist supply and demand market stuff plays havoc on the less successful...

Amphibians, which I am bummed about actually, are on their way out though (have been for millions of years). Someone needs to tell the psychadelic frogs on my patio to stay out of the sun.

I say we do what bees would do if they could and put ourselves first.

And here are species we saved from extinction off the top of my head:

Alligators
Bald Eagles
Whales, so far anyway
We have a bunch of buildings with tiny ecosystems all over the world too for cloning potential... what are they called again, oh yeah, Zoos.

How about the species whose populations have exploded due to us?

Cockroaches
Rodents- mice, rats, squirells, hamsters
Pidegeons, seagulls, vultures (cities, garbage dumps, road kill)
Mycoplasma Gentitalium
Dust mites
Various fungi, bacteria and viruses.

If you have a problem with someone's policy, run for office with an alternate plan, don't throw ridicules and unprovable accusations of someones intentions that you don't know or cannot prove.

Now can we get back to the grok on this killer Fayker track?

http://www.archive.org/details/little_grateful_dan

That is my message, what's yours?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you poople a bunch of Republicans or something?

I stole mine: "Vegetable rights and peace".

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Sep 4, 2008 11:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Oppression of a whole species at the hands of humans

For millions of years humans have been exploiting plantlife and it has to stop, NOW.

Young babies are ripped from their mothers womb and called fruit, what kind of anti photosyntheis slaughterhouse are we running here? At least animals can run away, but some of the innocent plants do not even know they are about to be cut down in the prime of their life for the greed of hungry hominids. When will the atrocity stop?

Millions of blades of grass are decapitated in our selfish effort to maintain a standard eugenic height restriction in our own front yards. Their mangled corpses dumped in compost piles like garbage as the last life evaporates from them in the sun. Just so we can have a nice lawn? Be still my heart.

Trees that are just minding their own business are being slaughtered in alarming numbers for pencils. PENCILS? Why do we need them? The dinosaurs died for our sins to become petrochemicals so we could make ballpoint pens and yet the killing goes on, right under the nose of the UN, amnesty international, the aclu and the international house of pancakes.

Millions of insects rise in protest of our exploitation of plant life but are murdered in a genocidal rage of chemical warfare and jackbooted stomping. The virus that causes the common cold is attacked relentlessly but somehow manages to avoid extinction because of big medicine's exploitation exceeded only by the civil rights groups who would be unemployed if they did their job. The sun has been emitting toxic levels of radiation for billions of years and the republicans do nothing. What happened to the dream?

When you walk by a farm next time, realize the innocent amuptees left half buried alive are crying out for your help.

Free them.

Free yourself.

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Poster: Bob Gnarley Date: Sep 3, 2008 2:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you poople a bunch of Republicans or something?

EARTH FIRST!!!... we'll ruin the other planets later.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

I draw a distinction b/w playing for "causes", and certainly for Rex since members are on the Board of Directors that choose where the funds go [I know, b/c I've recently sent Wavy, Bob, and Cliff Palefsky letters for a group I work for], and stumping for a particular candidate. That said, I have no problem w/ them deciding to support Obama as they believe in him and his candidacy. The thing about being a "Deadhead" [whatever that means] is that the slogan "Deadheads for Obama" implies we all support him. I didn't, but he'll get my vote in the general election (registered Independent, BTW).

As far as getting excited about other musicians, I do get more excited about newer or other contemporary musicians that continue to create new music as opposed to these getting back together to rework tired old chestnuts when the main creative spark for the same (miss you Jerome) is not there to help breathe new life into the same.

Also, what's the demographic they are targeting? Do you get a ticket discount w/ your AARP card?

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

couldnt agree with you more Edsel.

never struck me as their style, but things change i guess, not always for the good......

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Poster: the_full_monte Date: Sep 4, 2008 7:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

Musically, I'm not a big fan of post-Jerry GD (Other Ones, The Dead),Old Ones, whatever), but then again even with Jerry I'm not really a big fan of a lot of post- '77 GD (I have Brent-era shows I enjoy, just not as many as earlier eras).

BUT...

Like several others, what really bugs me is the "Deadheads for Obama" thing. I am a Deadhead, and I am most certainly NOT for Obama, and I'm certainly not going to let a bunch of old farts (ha! as if I'm not one!) influence my vote by dusting off a few old favorites.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

like has been said - they didnt have to tag it as "deadheads for obama" - makes it sound kinda like "we" are all on board (although admittedly you dont have to read the line that way - but that is first impression imho)

unaffiliated here too

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Founding Fathers

Yes this is a hijack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gldlyTjXk9A

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:42pm
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deja vu, that funny, funny feeling...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Founding Fathers

great way to end a day at work (errrrr, was i doing any work???)

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Founding Fathers

You are going home already? You hiring?

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 3, 2008 2:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Founding Fathers

I'm going home to drink myself into a hate-filled stupor, angry about the deck fate dealt me. Long live racist jingoism and phony facts!

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Sep 3, 2008 2:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Founding Fathers

I prefer cannabis and racist bingo, but to each their own.

I was under the impression that in order for jingoism to exist, a bias in the belief of superiority was needed. I don't think there are many countries with immigrants risking their lives to sneak in. Rumor has it we might be pretty competitive in some of these areas as well, regardless of race or ideology:

Military
Space exploration
Olympics
Business
Educational facilities
Investment opportunities
Individual rights to say any of this
Entertainment
Jam bands
Cheesesteaks
Cars
Planes
Technology
Conservation
Charity, domestic and foreign
Religious tolerance
Employment
Motorcycles
Guitars
Spam
Webcams
Agriculture
Science
Healthcare, yes believe it or not some folks actually travel here from great distances under some crazy idea that you get what you pay for and capitalist competition brings out the best in every field... I know it's silly

If anyone thinks foreign policy is based on racism and not geographic strategy in relation to foreign threats has to be on something, and I want some, seriously, please email some. I just hope one day we will be open minded enough to let women and minorities run for the white house, or let asians govern southern states, or place minorities in high positions on the bench, congress and cabinets . Some day a man like Bobby Jindal can run for governer in states where men like Robert Byrd used to burn crosses. Maybe some day a new political party will come out and abolish slavery. You never know...

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Poster: spacedface Date: Sep 4, 2008 10:48am
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"If anyone thinks foreign policy is based on racism and not geographic strategy in relation to foreign threats has to be on something"

Racism and strategy intersect exactly at "foreign threats."

Our "defense" spending dwarf Russia, China, and most others COMBINED. Russia and China aren't sweetheart governments but please.

We must be awful scared of threats. Home of the Brave? Why have we supported dictators and taught torture for so long?

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Poster: rastamon Date: Sep 4, 2008 10:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Founding Fathers

yeah, why had/has the radical left supported most dicktators? Do you think Russia really decomissioned it's Nuclear arms- HAHA! Maybe slick willey did ours, but Russia is not stupid.
"We"-he also gave China the technology to guide ICBM's. So in a way, we have supported the left's darlings. I cannot forget Albrights lovegush over that N.Korea Dick.
Don't mix up good american's with the likes of clinton/kerry/obamayomama.

For some, if they hate amerika they coool!
Join the half-dozen who want to flee our oppresive country.
Go, get, skeedaddle!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 2:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Founding Fathers

i wouldnt do that if i were you. you will miss Palin's speech if you pass out.

naughty naughty

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

I am also surprised that people have an issue with a "cause" concert. This is the band that did rainforest gigs, rex benefits. Bobby wore Seva shirts at shows and sat in on congressional hearings. They had lunch with pat leahy and played an aids benefit with Fogerty 1989. I think they have been pretty consistent over the years. As for the music, I never got into the solo projects post dead and really wanted to like "the dead/The other ones" While there are some well played shows I think the rotating band member thing really turns me off.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 3, 2008 3:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

disagree with your premise. aids, rainforest, charity, etc is nowhere near taking a purely political stance during a presidential election.

to be honest, i question whether half the band really even follows politics to the extent that we do.

have no problem with musicians standing up for non-political humanitarian issues. this is different imho.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Sep 3, 2008 4:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

I'd love to solve the answer to this issue but this article seems to sit on the fence as well. The band came out to openly support Kerry but at the same time mentions that they are known for not getting involved with politics (except through song)

http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/thegratefuldead/articles/story/6436412/the_dead_get_political

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 3, 2008 4:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

You are right, L, that they did embrace "causes" as time wore on...

Somehow, it never set well with me, BUT I will agree it IS the HUMANE thing to do...

Still struggle with it.

Still always uneasy, as I said above, with the fact that it presupposes a notion of an "answer" and the confidence that goes with that, and the fear and recognition that as I have aged, just as Bob said (the OTHER Bob), I was much older then, and I am younger than that now...

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Sep 3, 2008 4:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

To Dire's post, since the band seemed to be liberal and supported many causes openly I just labeled them as a "political" band. Maybe that is not the case. Other than them having lunch with leahy the only thing that now comes to mind as an open political message was an Other ones concert I heard from the MCI center in DC in the early 2000's. The republicans just gained control and Lesh dedicated "new speedway Boogie" to then minority leader Nancy Pelosi who was in attendance.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 3, 2008 1:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are you people a bunch of Republicans or something?

Agree with BD (don't like the fact that I miss Jerry sooo much; just can't get into it...even Ratdog, etc.).

Agree with Dire too (like the 60s iconoclastic, idiosyncratic, anti-cause, cynical informed but aloof Jerry giving interviews that leave you puzzled but proud to be a head, even if a little worried about how this lack of a plan will actually move us forward...).

The "what the fuck do I know?" approach to politics, life, parenting, etc. Having a cause suggests you have moved beyond that.